[jmalicki]

A lot of the revolution is just getting within 5-30% of Windows!

If you need every last bit of FPS maybe it is lagging, but 5-30% slower is roughly on par at a large sense, it's less than the difference of e.g. one NVidia GPU generation to the next, so it makes it playable.

[anonymousab]

One problem is that having better FPS stops mattering if the frame pacing and timing is bad, making the game feel like a juddery mess. Or if there is significant input delay differences.

That's why all the data matters for all of these dimensions; game performance is much more than FPS per watt over time.

When people see "linux gaming is great now, look at the fps" it comes across as potentially disengenuous because of all the other factors that matter and should be tested. Or rather, if a reviewer is talking entirely about framerate, then I just can't trust their opinion and expertise when it comes to the state of Linux gaming.

[bisby]

Another problem is that having better frame pacing, or better timing stops mattering if the OS decides to reboot for updates mid game. Game experience is much more than just game performance.

Part of the issue is that a large part of linux gamers are saying "linux gaming is great" and meaning "linux gaming is good enough now that it is better than putting up with microsoft and windows 11"

Some people would rather put up with slightly worse frame pacing if it means no microsoft. Some linux folks are super gung-ho pro privacy, some are just super anti-microsoft but can't game on mac. There's a whole lot of reasons to wind up on linux, so the importance of specific performance details may vary depending on WHY you would be swapping.

And some people are playing games on good enough hardware that there arent noticeable frame pacing issues, so good raw FPS numbers just reinforce their views, and they just genuinely mean they are having a good experience themselves.

[jabroni_salad]

To tack onto this a big annoyance for me right now is the lack of knowledge in the community about frame pacing and how to configure the computer.

The user will say 'it lags' but does not mention if they have tearing enabled in wayland, what are their 1% lows, have they set an fps cap, what vsync settings have they chosen in-game. On top of that there is an ecosystem failure as not every game supports arbitrary caps and you have to configure some mangohud thing.

Linux is only a 'just click play' experience if you have no standards because I have never had this stuff be correct out of the box on a fresh install.

[Dylan16807]

> Linux is only a 'just click play' experience if you have no standards because I have never had this stuff be correct out of the box on a fresh install.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but the standard you've outlined excludes Windows too.

[tormeh]

This is very personal. I don't particularly mind stutter. Input lag annoys me a lot, though.