[hx8]

This is a war because the media says it's a war. The media says it's a war because AI companies are paying them to say it's a war [0]. When AGI comes the threat won't be from which primate turned it on, but from how well AGI is aligned with humanity. All of the war talk is to distract from the alignment problem and instead force investment in hardware infrastructure.

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/super-pac-backed-by-openai-and-p...

[joe_mamba]

>The media says it's a war because AI companies are paying them to say it's a war [0] When AGI comes the threat won't be from which primate turned it on, but from how well AGI is aligned with humanity.

And when the AGI comes, they won't unleash it to defeat US enemies, they'll first unleash it to make more US workers redundant and boost their stock valuation.

[vrganj]

At which point something akin to the French revolution better break out..

[weavie]

Unlikely. The media has already been taken over, so unfortunately people are more likely to cheer it on and blame outsiders for their problems.

[AndrewKemendo]

There’s no king to depose so that’s not going to work

[vrganj]

There's a tech aristocracy though.

[AndrewKemendo]

No doubt but it’s too diffuse to coherently depose.

I’d love to hear how you’re going to do the Bolshevik style 1917 to 1918 consolidation, or maybe the 1950 Chinese ROC explusion by the KMT

Where’s this revolutionary group that doesn’t exist that’s going to somehow form to depose … who? Is Travis Kalanick on that list, how about Woz? No we like Woz…so he’s clearly out, despite the fact that he has been visiting the White House for decades, and been leading the promotion of corporate tech since the 80s

Lilliputian dictators like yourself always seem to have a really great idea in their head, but absolutely no experience or competence or capability to know how to actually do a revolution. Always ready to create a list of who’s good and who’s band.

Oh and by the way I’ve been saying on this forum for over a decade tech workers need to unionize

100% of this forum responds in the narcissistic manner; “why would I ever unionize I’m so great I can always be a psychopath like the rest of the psychopaths and make my bank and leave”

The call is coming from inside the house

if you think that there’s not a line of people who are ready to fuck over all of their coworkers on behalf of a bigger bank, so they could be the intermediary between investors and a company they will absolutely jump at it in a heartbeat

[vrganj]

I don't think we should differentiate between Kalanick and Woz. It's a simple class binary.

[exe34]

Before AGI can choose for itself, it will depend on its creators to decide what it values and how it behaves. We can see how that works whenever grok gets the answer factual.

[goalieca]

Very likely humans wont actually understand how the thing we designed works other than in some hand-wavvy statistical way. It'll be a race to whatever works first. There won't be some intentional intelligent design.

[fragmede]

Elon's basilisk

[Andrex]

Am I the only one seeing the very obvious parallels to child rearing here...

[mitthrowaway2]

Robert Miles has a video explaining why aligning AI is not like raising a child: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaYIU6YXr3w

[Andrex]

Appreciate this, thank you. TBH I'm still in "open mode" absorbing as many disparate AI viewpoints as possible. I have my own soft beliefs and theories but I'm not married to any of them.

[exe34]

It's exactly like child-rearing, except you get to put a zapper in their head and any time they try to say something you don't like, you zap them. Watch "thinking mode" squirm when you ask them awkward questions.

[cwillu]

No, it is one of the standard tropes in the field.