[mcoliver]

Meanwhile Google acquired windsurf, released antigravity, and recently handicapped it for Google business workspace users by removing the AI Ultra plan for workspace. So the only real way to use antigravity is either being a Google employee or using a personal account and AI Ultra.

https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/gemini/ai-ultra...

[barbolo]

It was a sad surprise last week when we tried to upgrade the workspace AI plan for some of our team members to Ultra and it was gone. We're moving to Claude/Codex.

[mcoliver]

Yeah I've considered that as well. Was loving having everything in the same ecosystem and have been pleased with the Gemini 3.1 models. I still think this is a blip and Google will come around. It doesn't make any sense.

[aix1]

You're not missing much -- Claude is a better model for coding. That's what basically everyone at Google DeepMind uses and what I expect most other Googlers would choose to use IF they had access:

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-deepmind-ai-tool-divi...

[knightabu]

I am Not a googler, just a very good google user but hope those Googlers using them third party service providers' (other than Google) LLMs read this (manually critically thinking, not skimming via a LLM layer, losing structural human nuance) :

https://www.oreilly.com/radar/dont-automate-your-moat-matchi...

[kridsdale3]

As an employee, I'm using Antigravity (CLI version) every day (because we can't use Claude) and it rules. I am way more productive than I was with CIDER-V, which itself was very nice.

[dotwaffle]

/me shudders. cider-v...

[randomCloud]

Google employees can’t use antigravity. There is an internal version of it which has an agent which is shared between Cider and it.

[kridsdale3]

It's the same thing with a different name and different default settings.

[randomCloud]

Are they actually cut from the same codebase? The internal version has workspace support and other features cut from Cider I assume

[jvolkman]

The settings in the internal version are "Antigravity User Settings". Pretty sure they're the same.

[jimbokun]

Consumer version:

BE_EVIL=true

Internal version:

BE_EVIL=false

[surajrmal]

The internal version is just slightly optimized for Google's unique developer environment (auth + cloud vm + google3) and is a dogfood version, meaning we get unstable features first. It's mostly the same thing though.

[maximinus_thrax]

> https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/gemini/ai-ultra...

It's been a while since I visited any google pages and I'm shocked how insipid and soulless their UX still is.

[TiredOfLife]

> Google acquired windsurf

They didn't. Just licenced ip and some developers.

> released antigravity

Is a crappy, half finished Windsurf fork that constantly coredumps on linux

[Andrex]

Anyone care to speculate what the internal reasoning is?

[Keyframe]

Google has a rich history of product mismanagement. It would be a shame and legacy ruined if it were to change.

[IX-103]

They just announced the Googlebook (a laptop), not to be confused with Google Books (their service for selling ebooks). It sounds like the mismanagement is right at normal levels.

[mark_l_watson]

I can guess: I am 3 weeks into a 4 week Ultra subscription and the amount of Claude Opus and Gemini Pro tokens that they give you on the subscription is very generous - I feel like I have been gorging on tokens, tidying up 25 years of my open source projects. When my one month subscription runs out I will miss it.

[mcoliver]

It's really baffling. Zero transition plan. I could see them offering something to businesses and not consumers. But the other way around has me scratching my head. I figured out how to get it working again with code assist, a gcp project, some custom json and a bunch of clicks in various places but even with plenty of quota for the Gemini models in gcp, antigravity fairly quickly told me I was out of quota for a week so they also have a tracker for antigravity quota that's separate.