[seanmcdirmid]

China is competing in value AI because they cannot work at the frontier, but how is this bad at all? It’s like how the USA has the best drones but they are a few million dollars apiece while China has DJI.

If China could work at the frontier, I don’t know, I kind of think they would still be dumping a lot of resources into exploring the value side since they have that culture already in place.

[SubiculumCode]

I did not imply it was bad. I implied that competing in value AI is the only option that China-based AI companies have due to limitations in compute.

[seanmcdirmid]

This is true, but I don't think they would all be rushing to frontier if that option was available. Chinese are used to working with constraints to their benefit, they would see the price of working at frontier and make hard choices that maybe we can ignore in the states.