[j_maffe]

> Russia has been trying to export their nationalistic totalitarianism to the EU

Let's not pretend that nationalism doesn't have deep roots in Europe.

[gmueckl]

Do you think that I do? Nationalism existed at the edges of the political spectrum for a long time. I'm saying that outside propaganda tries to actively boost the popularity of those parties.

[j_maffe]

I think it's easy to blame foreign nations for issues in the local population. Would be great if Europeans take responsibility for once in their life.

[gmueckl]

You're still attempting to twist my words here. It's not exclusively one or the other. Don't make that claim. Don't pretend that I made it, either.

[palata]

Well of course there is nationalism in Europe. The thing is, it weakens Europe. And nationalists outside of Europe are very happy to help them. Not only Russia: look at Elon Musk and his nazi salute and publicly endorsing neo-nazis in Germany...

[crote]

The new part is that the nationalists of various countries are now, ironically, banding together in international cooperation.

[embedding-shape]

Also not new, been happening for as long as I can remember. Nordic Resistance Movement for example been around since late 90s, and early 2000s they were already banding together with other organizations in the Nordics, and even collaboration with their German counter-parts and more.

From the top of my head, Franco, Hitler and Mussolini frequently helped each other, two of them even created a somewhat famous alliance together, even though by their own "theories" they should have been fighting against each other instead.

I'm sure there are even more examples further back too.