[cjbgkagh]

I keep warning people that promising UBI and not delivering UBI both serve the same end, undermining opposition.

By the time you find out that their promises of UBI are empty it’s too late to do anything about it.

[JKCalhoun]

I don't know. A nationwide (global?) promise of UBI that just evaporates is likely to bring on a French Revolution kind of moment.

[Gud]

The difference between then and now is that the have nots don’t have much leverage.

At least during the French Revolution, they had strength in numbers.

The people who control the capital are building autonomous armament to protect themselves against both foreign and domestic enemies.

If you sell labour for money, you should be worried.

[johneth]

> The people who control the capital are building autonomous armament to protect themselves against both foreign and domestic enemies.

Rich people can build all the fortified bunkers they want, but they still need to get their food, water, and air from somewhere. It would be very easy to cut them off or smoke them out.

(I'm not advocating for violence in any way, I'm just pointing out that nobody's invincible, no matter how obscenely wealthy they are).

[wolvesechoes]

> I'm not advocating for violence in any way

God, I hate this.

"Guys, there is an ugly but working solution to many of our problems, but hey, I am so well-tamed I automatically need to emphasize I don't condone choosing this option"

[cjbgkagh]

Imagine a split between two factions, one that wants UBI and one that doesn't. The most talented people will go to the faction that doesn't offer/impose UBI. That's why UBI is impossible, the incentive to defect is immense.

[Gud]

What makes you think that?

Why would “the most talented” necessarily side with the oppressors?