[QuercusMax]

> ChatGPT has helped me find multiple niche products and vendors. It is really good at that. Products I fruitlessly tried to find for years, ChatGPT found right away.

isn't that what search engines were built for? we've just forgotten how to build a search engine that's not just an ad factory, so instead we're putting an ad factory into our new search engine?

[BHSPitMonkey]

ChatGPT and similar are, in some sense, a semantic web search engine combined with an operator that's able to jot down its findings, pivot to different lookups, and filter/combine outputs.

[marcus_holmes]

I use Kagi to search, and claude to help me find things. These are different tasks.

If I know what I'm looking for, Kagi is much easier.

If I don't know what I'm looking for (I have hobbies that involve learning new techniques, and my method for learning a new technique seems to involve getting inspired by short-form videos, which don't come with a glossary of terms or a dictionary of tool names, so I often don't know what I'm looking for) then I can describe it to claude who can usually come up with a name for the thing, some useful advice about it, and where to start looking.

Last time, as an example, was all about enamalling and cloisonne, which was quite a rabbit-hole. And yes, I could search for beginner guides for the thing. But that is going to land me at a YouTube video which has 5 minutes of "hi welcome to my show, hit the like and subscribe" and then 15 minutes of waffle before finally getting to "the thing you want is called a trivet". I can read way, way, faster than people on YouTube can get to the point, so I prefer talking to claude.

[necovek]

I wonder if LLMs will actually kill Youtube for those who are like you (and me)? I am curious to see if anything happens to earnings from Youtube over the next few years as people increasingly do not need to sit through whole videos.

[marcus_holmes]

I used YouTube extensively when getting into 3D printing a few years ago, though it drove me to distraction because of all the wasted time waiting for them to get to the point, even at 3x playback.

So yeah, I can see YouTube content creator revenue drying up around this. Though I also had ad-blockers and had perfected the art of skipping through product placements, so I doubt they were making much revenue from me anyway.

[kube-system]

It is what they are supposed to do but they are SEO’d so bad that they give you prominent brands rather or least common denominator type stuff.

If you have a list of specific criteria, search engines are impossibly bad at finding what you’re looking for, but top LLMs do it with ease.

ChatGPT and Claude have been amazing timesavers in my recent tech acquisitions at work, and I find I am able to find better solutions

[com2kid]

I needed some extra wide toe box shoes. Search results had been SEOed to hell so I could only find a handful of brands (that I'd already tried).

Chatgpt found me a lot more choices.

I wanted custom lifts for a shoe. Chatgpt found me a local store that did it, I'd been calling around for years asking to no avail.

Chatgpt is really damn good at niche stuff.