[lopsotronic]

I think it might be even worse than that. It's a war for nothing at all.

A defense analyst said, "we can't be sure that the administration has met their war aims" and it made me scream at the radio. What aims? They didn't even bother making something up. At least Bush 2 respected us well enough to lie. I have no idea what any of this is supposed to accomplish.

You're watching a nuclear power putter around a marina with fifty brawling toddlers climbing all over the tiller.

[tim333]

Various potential aims have been mentioned - stop nukes, regime change, support the protestors, stop support for Hamas and the like. The trouble is none of it seems planned out or able to achieve them.

[lopsotronic]

Mentioned by . . the President? SecDef? Did they mention these things before munitions were released? Perhaps I have not been paying attention, but generally before exploding another sovereign nation PotUS does a little speaking thing.

June 2025, when the U.S. struck Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan, PotUS did a little thing that Sunday evening, talked about degrading nuclear capability, yadda yadda. It's almost entirely bullshit, but it's still communication.

These OEF attacks are orders of magnitude more extensive, and so far as I can tell PotUS kind of vaguely talked about Iran before addressing an unrelated MoH ceremony March 2. But nearly simultaneously Rubio was talking about unrelated sets of goals, then the April 1 "Clear and Unchanging Objectives" release, so on and so forth, but to date no two goals stay the same four days running.

It's like eating paint chips.

[tim333]

Back in January (13th) when the Iran protests were going on we had Trump truthing:

>Iranian Patriots, KEEP PROTESTING - TAKE OVER YOUR INSTITUTIONS!!! Save the names of the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. I have cancelled all meetings with Iranian Officials until the senseless killing of protesters STOPS. HELP IS ON ITS WAY

then he sent aircraft carriers, then, Feb 28th:

>To the great, proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don’t leave your home. It’s very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations.

So that seems to have kicked it off, but helping the protestors seems to have been largely forgotten now.

I remember thinking that there's a problem with the "when we are finished, take over your government" bit in that there are millions of Iranians who'd like the government changed but they are generally unarmed whereas the regime has about a million loyalists armed with machine guns so protestors tend just to get shot.

[Henchman21]

Once again I’ll say: the purpose is clear, you just don’t want to admit it. The point is to destroy the US.