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by solid_fuel 35 days ago
Mine has like, 8 walls, but sure. It's a box. Crucially, it was sold as a box. Not a thinking machine.

Your attempt at an analogy will make sense when someone tries to install a house as middle management at some company.

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If you ignore all the complexity and discard every detail, it’s literally just a box. Yet curiously you aren’t living in a cardboard box, or an aluminum shed.

Point being, which you know and are being willfully ignorant about, is that it’s more complex than that. And you’ve neatly discarded the detail that they’re multi modal.

I will freely admit though, analogy is useless when interacting with someone who has already made up their mind.

Well that’s the problem with arguing through analogy, when you’re wrong you just come out looking like a Fucking Dork.

Truly your analogy isn’t wrong, it’s just that you are wrong. A house is a box and it needs walls on each side and a roof like a box. But it’s good to remember that it’s supposed to be a box. That might sound overly reductive, but it’s important to keep the fundamentals in mind in case someone tries to sell you a bowl like it was a house. A bowl does not have a lid, and will not keep the elements out.

Similarly, people keep trying to sell token prediction machines as if they are capable of thought. They are not. They predict the next token, nothing more. Yet people keep trying to sell them as if they can think.

It’s overly reductive to the point of being wrong yes. You’re being intentionally obtuse. Then again your brain is just some electric meat so why would you be capable of more?

Good job calling it a token predictor instead of text autocomplete btw, you’re making progress, my wonderful analogies have already begun to enlighten you. You’ll achieve some nuance yet.

> You’re being intentionally obtuse.

I'm still waiting for you to present a real argument. So far it's just been "nuh uh" and poorly formed analogies.

> token predictor instead of text autocomplete

Same thing, btw.

I'm pretty sure it was sold as a house. That you understand that you can think of it as a box doesn't make it not a house. That's the point of the analogy.