[traderj0e]

I'm glad they saw the light. Last time I used Java was in high school when it was version 7, when it was pure OOP. Didn't even have lambdas. After I learned other languages, I didn't want to use Java again, seemed like a lot of boilerplate for something that didn't even give good performance.

[PaulHoule]

I use Java all the time for ordinary programming at work, I think it is great, but I'm not in a hurry to mess with stuff off-heap.

[dionian]

Java has always given good performance for most of my use cases. Like backend servers where startup time is mostly irrelevant.

[saagarjha]

Maybe you should check again if the last time you used it was Java 7.

[traderj0e]

I've looked, it's better now, hence my comment that they saw the light. They got lambdas, records, and auto types. More importantly they got virtual threads, but that's unrelated.