[edmiller287]

> Like the adage of how unwise it is to fire custodians just because you never see a mess and therefore you never actually see the custodians do anything, it may be "unwise" to lose the presence of these 300k/yr engineers just because they somehow actually keep things going smoothly.

so you should keep people on pay-roll because they "might actually be doing something if you look hard enough" ...? don't think so

> People who experienced these cultures may be waiting for private conversations

the error is the "waiting" - if you have a problem it is your responsibility to do something about it

[dahart]

> so you should keep people on pay-roll because they "might actually be doing something if you look hard enough" ...? don't think so

The point was that you might be making incorrect assumptions that they aren’t doing work, and you might be making incorrect assumptions that replacing them will cost less. Looking busy and knowing what to do are two different things.