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by devin-2030 42 days ago
Used to be different when AWS started properly 20 years ago with S3 and EC2. But yes they went from catering to startups to SMBs to enterprise.

Unfortunately a lot of developers still believe the AWS / GCP / Azure propaganda (tech evangelism, cloud advocacy, or whatever else you're calling it). Nowadays you shouldn't use them at all when starting up.
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Our_Benefactors 42 days ago
What should someone use? Selfhost? Cheap VPS? Genuinely curious to hear your thoughts.
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bcjdjsndon 40 days ago
Same thing we did before aws was invented... cloud is just a managed server half the time, not really anything new. And what kind of IT professional is daunted by bread and butter shit like running a server? That's like an accountant that outsources the accounting to someone else cos "it's too complex"
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Our_Benefactors 40 days ago
> And what kind of IT professional is daunted by bread and butter shit like running a server?

You’re serious and not acting in jest? Because people focus on their core competencies. Self hosting server infrastructure, or even self-administration via VPS or whatever, is orthogonal to the service being delivered to users.

Calling it “bread and butter” is some form of irony as those jobs are mostly gone now, it’s a data center monkeys job that maintains 10,000 servers across countless unknown clients.

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bcjdjsndon 39 days ago
> is orthogonal to the service being delivered to users.

Not if they need a server. I think you might be imagining this from an MSP perspective.

> Because people focus on their core competencies

The IT department handles the computers, it's always been that way. There is no group more competent at it than the IT guys.

> those jobs are mostly gone now, it’s a data center monkeys job

Onprem is still very much a thing, especially since AWS and VMware became expensive in the last couple of years.

The local/cloud thing is cyclical (started with mainframes, went to the pc, then back to the cloud) and I reckon with the cost of ai tokens the push back to local will be led by people running their own ai farms

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niutech 34 days ago
Smaller, cheaper providers like OVH or Hetzner.
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