[pfortuny]

Honest question:

Do these systems not share data with the AI servers? Or are they all local (on-site, not on-computer)?

I am totally baffled by the trust people put on these systems, sharing with them the most obviously private data.

[dsr_]

Most services have privacy policies that boil down to:

- we promise not to share PII (defined as narrowly as possible)

- we promise not to share payment information except with our payment system

- if you pay us, we promise not to train LLMs on your data

- you agree that everything else can be used for any business purpose, including marketing, intelligence gathering, and "sharing with our 1735 trusted partners".

[pfortuny]

OK. But those can be "Zukerberg" promises?

[cj]

> I am totally baffled by the trust people put on these systems

The average person doesn't care about online privacy.

[sdellis]

They care, but realize that there is no such thing as privacy anymore. The amount of obsession required to maybe maintain some degree of privacy is not something most people are willing to do.

[cj]

When the average person thinks about "online privacy" they think about keeping things private from other people. They don't think about keeping their data private from the companies hosting/processing their data.

[sdellis]

You are making a lot of assumptions about the "average" person. Here's a Pew Research study that says otherwise:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/11/15/americans-an...

[cj]

That research study also concludes that “59% of people have no understanding of what companies do with the data they collect”

To me, that says the average person doesn’t care enough (they care, just not enough) to do anything about it.

They might care enough to spend 5 seconds signing a petition, but not enough to spend 5 minutes installing an ad blocker, and definitely not enough to spend 5 hours doing anything more extreme like de-googling their life.

[sdellis]

Look, no offense, but I'm gonna trust the peer reviewed research article over your hot take.

[daft_pink]

If you are in a trusted industry like finance or healthcare, the popular ones generally have industry wide privacy certification like HIPAA compliant, SOC 2 Type 2 etc.

[pfortuny]

Ok, thank you.