[AJRF]

Hetzner. You won't get much better support, and you will have to deal with EU legislative nonsense, but it won't be hard to do that if you are actually small.

Why do I say Hetzner?

It's very budget friendly and has a very small list of services so its much harder to screw yourself into a situation where its hard to leave.

[htx80nerd]

Hetzner has the most unintuitive UI out of any host I've ever used in 20+ yrs of using different web host. Spending hours trying to do basic things, and even AI couldnt help. Switched to one of their competitors after 2(!) days of trouble shooting and got the same basic task done in ~10 mins.

[throwaway2037]

    > Hetzner has the most unintuitive UI out of any host

This is the first negative thing about Hetzner I have read on HN. Does anyone else dis/agree?

    > one of their competitors

Can you share which one?

[htx80nerd]

Digital Ocean. I should add going into the whole situation I had a positive feelings about Hetzner and negative feelings about Digital Ocean. It's why I tried Hetzner first. I didnt like D.O. or want to use them. But in the end their interface was way easier to work with.

[stingraycharles]

For individuals, probably.

For SMBs spending $10k - $100k a month, I would absolutely advise against that.

[devin-2030]

Back when we were spending 100k/mo on AWS, I calculated that equivalent infra would be $15k-$20k/mo at Hetzner.

[VHRanger]

A lot of those are spending 10-100k a month when they could be spending 1k-10k a month with a more lean infra

[earnesti]

Why is that? I've seen couple of small firms using hetzner very successfully and saving a lot of money compared to whatever cloud offering.