[greenknight]

Thats the thing, what if the codebases had CLAUDE.md / AGENTS.md files, which clearly dictated that

A) tests need to pass

B) anything you write needs tests

C) the code quality must adhere to these standards

etc.etc.... Helping the LLMs that people Vibe code with, produce better quality results.

By not having these in place, it means people who want to help out, cant. because htey dont understand whats going on.

adding stuff to these files, woudl allow developers to give guidelines / guardrails for developement using these agents.

Should the barrier of entry be someone who knows how to code? or should the barrier of entry be someone who is motivated to help with open-source software.

[x-complexity]

> Should the barrier of entry be someone who knows how to code? or should the barrier of entry be someone who is motivated to help with open-source software.

The motivation to help the OSS project should also come with the obligation to learn how the software operates, at least on a conceptual level. The desire to help does not grant people the pass to sledgehammer their way into adding in a feature.

[bonesss]

If someone can’t write their own Agent.md for a project how are they going to validate the auto-completed text?

This strikes me as the ideal LLM first contribution/PR, a file explaining the projects standards and testing and structure.

[x-complexity]

> If someone can’t write their own Agent.md for a project how are they going to validate the auto-completed text?

> This strikes me as the ideal LLM first contribution/PR, a file explaining the projects standards and testing and structure.

Why should the project maintainers write such a file, when the info already exists within the README? It is duplicated work at best, and a definitive sign of the incapabilities of the agent to properly parse the project's contribution guidelines.

https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/blob/master/README.md#contrib...

https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/wiki/Coding-Style

https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/wiki/Developer-Information

[int0x29]

It really shouldn't be the RPCS3 devs' problem to fix other people's broken AI pipelines.

[techpression]

What motivation? Is it motivation to start Claude Code and let it run when you have no idea what’s going on? Is motivation the same as token spend? Yes, the barrier should definitely be someone who knows how to code when submitting, well, code.

And since the training data seems to be very lacking, no amount of markdown would fix that.

[GCUMstlyHarmls]

> Should the barrier of entry be someone who knows how to code? or should the barrier of entry be someone who is motivated to help with open-source software.

Probably yes? QED submitting slop PRs is not helping. If "helping" is sticking it through an LLM, the developers can do that themselves with better insight and guidance? If you must help via an LLM, donate cash for tokens.

If you can't code, and cant donate cash/machine time, help by confirming issue reproductions, design, wikis, documentation, whatever.

[egypturnash]

How about claude.md/agents.md files that just say "Don't".

[jmye]

> someone who is motivated to help with open-source software.

I don’t mean to pile on, but like… are you actually helping if you don’t understand the code you’re fixing, don’t understand the problem you’re addressing, and don’t understand the potential solution you’re submitting for that unknown problem? Or are you just making a lot of distracting noise so you can pat yourself on the back?

I think people need to be a bit more self-critical about what they’re actually up to, and who is actually benefiting from it. Generally, from comments like yours, the answers seem to be “self-aggrandizement” and “no one”, but people really don’t want to think they might be the bad guys.

[_JoRo]

I agree, and yet I think even with a well engineering agent harness, there are a lot of unknown unknowns out there.

I imagine the problem will persist if users continue to submit PRs that pass the harness without being able to validate for themselves that it actually works.