[m463]

> Some devs have a good product/UX sense but the vast majority are horrendously bad at UX.

I think the problem is that nobody understands the size of the problem.

For most tasks, the accomplishment is getting something to work. That takes 90% of the time. But the UI requires polish, working things out, backing out and trying again, and takes the OTHER 90% of the time.

I remember talking to a friend who worked with apple to port some dvd authoring software. And steve jobs started with the UI, and said "this is what you do". I think it was just a blank screen and you drag your video onto it. the software they were porting was a bunch of windows type confusing nonsense, and they had big changes to make.

That said, AWS might be a dark pattern. Remember the cable companies that didn't WANT to show the hidden fees? because $29.99 a month was really $71.41?

[jonhohle]

Prior to AWS at Amazon hosts were provisioned as “host classes” and typically operated on in that way. We were encouraged to make them “touchless”, which meant the infrastructure team could replace that host without contacting the team first. The deployment tool deployed to host classes (though you could put an individual server there if you wanted). EC2 wasn’t quite the same, but not very foreign either. We didn’t originally even use the AWS interface (at the team level). They were managed by a team working on the transition.