[pipodeclown]

Sure but that doesn't change the fact that they are charging s Ahead while the rest of us sit on our hands.

[spwa4]

China has slowed the rate at which China is making global climate worse. That's where we currently stand. No more than that.

This is not even remotely close to helping the climate.

If your argument is that there should be a "yet" added to that sentence, sure. Let's hope so. But that's still where we currently stand.