[stingraycharles]

> I can hardly believe headlines like these are met with anything but cheers.

My point is that I have an issue with his tone and rhetoric, not with the thing he’s advocating.

He appeals to a certain audience that likes rage over proper discourse. I am fairly certain the HN etiquette prefers proper discourse over rage.

[koverstreet]

It seems to me you're style over substance then.

[Aurornis]

The comment at the top of this thread was literally defending Rossmann based on his style (passionate, vulnerable) over his substance (factual accuracy)

[dns_snek]

I suggest reading that comment again because it does nothing of the sort.

[fc417fc802]

FWIW that's also how I interpret it. That said, it doesn't bother me because it's YT not HN. They're very different environments. As long as the ensuing discussion here exhibits a reasonable approximation of proper discourse then all is well I figure.

[Forgeties79]

> My point is that I have an issue with his tone and rhetoric, not with the thing he’s advocating.

This is often a hand wavy excuse by people who simply don’t agree with a cause and/or think it’s not important, but won’t admit it. If you don’t think what he is advocating for is important just say so. If you do, support him. You can’t possibly believe he’s so out of line that it’s worth prioritizing that opinion over the cause itself.

[stingraycharles]

To be clear: I really do agree with his message, and I appreciate the tremendous impact he has had in the right to repair, DRM and all these things. So in that sense, I support him.

It’s just that his style is really appalling to me. Am I not allowed to criticize his style while at the same time supporting his stance?

I think it’s unfair to then imply I must not be admitting that I’m against his cause and using it as an excuse, because nothing I have said indicated this.

[Forgeties79]

I don’t doubt that but the issue is you’re doing the work for detractors when you put more emphasis on his an exact approach rather than focusing on the quality of the cause and the fruits of his efforts.

[ryandrake]

I, for one, appreciate communication that has a point of view, one that actually champions an ethical opinion and calls out unethical behavior. I don't think doing this necessarily counts as rage. If I wanted to read a "proper" dry, impartial dissertation on some technology, written by Spock, there are plenty of places online to do this.