[technothrasher]

> The first was in college.

I remember my friend coming home from his first year in college and telling me about how he passed a counterfeit $30 he'd found to a clueless clerk and they actually made the correct change. My wise-ass response was that that wasn't actually counterfeit, it was just fraud.

[chuckadams]

The fraud of passing off something of lesser value as the genuine article is the definition of counterfeiting.

[Uvix]

But there is no such thing as a “genuine” $30 bill.

[chuckadams]

If it's being passed off as money, then someone thought it was. I don't think the Secret Service cares if it's an invalid denomination or has Bozo the Clown on the front. Probably not a high priority for them given the overall lack of believability, but the attempt is what counts.

[9935c101ab17a66]

I don't think that the parent comment is making the case it's not a crime, but rather that it's not specifically counterfeiting. There comment reads as playfully snarky to me, since, when discussing counterfeit currency, we almost always take counterfeit to mean "to make a fraudulent replica of".

It's still fraud, and an attempt to deceive.

[iambateman]

If you’ll allow yourself to go one step further in the pedantry, there is no such thing as genuine money either.

[margalabargala]

There is if we agree that there is.

Which we have.

[selimthegrim]

Isn’t this “uttering”?

[tekla]

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