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by aetherspawn 40 days ago
I want the world to go back to the way it was before, so I’m going to boycott it.

Sue me, I have that right.

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Don't worry, it's a shiny tool at the moment. The electric screwdriver had its wow moment too.

I still haven't found a single person willing to go to the movies, and watch an AI movie. If it wasn't made by a person, there is no 'personal'-ity to it. It's just bland.

Eventually things will slow and slide back to thoughtful first, crapload second.

> haven't found a single person willing to go to the movies, and watch an AI movie

The last 27 marvel movies might as well have been written by ai, plenty of people have been to see those.

And they've been financially failing as well lately.
I think AI movies (or shorts for that matter, since I am not aware of any feature length movie) currently are not bland, they are simply of very low quality because they are pushing the limits of the current technology. However by the time the technology catches up (might not be as soon as many expect), then nobody will care about them because it will not have personality.
3D movies were a huge shiny new tool for a while too. I hated them. They still exist but its not so in-your-face (pun!) like it was. Like hey we did a remake of the Godfather but in 3D!

I hope AI follows the same path and diminishes. Still available, but only where it make sense.

I share a similar dislike of 3D movies (probably not hate, though) as adding 3d doesn't really add anything to the experience of watching a film. What interests me about films are the acting, the writing, good direction and interesting ideas and adding 3D doesn't make any difference to that. I'd go so far as to say that adding colour to films doesn't really add much either.

AI generated films are almost certainly going to have at best mediocre acting/writing/direction and will almost certainly just recycle ideas. I hope AI films flop so hard that studios end up shunning them.

I agree about the 3D not adding anything, but my hate comes from the fact they gave me headaches, so were unwatchable. And for a while it was hard to even find a non-3D showtime.
AI is making some degree of growth in Spotify IIRC.

I feel like a lot of the stuff my nieces listen to are AI music. It's like a hodgepodge of popular songs with little rhyme or reason. Very 'sloppy' but if they like it....

It's hard for me to confirm if they really are AI or not. But I'm willing to bet that (random Roblox game they're interested in today) == heavily AI made. Maybe there's some real human effort here or there but I have heavy suspicions.

I feel like a lot of the stuff my nieces listen to are AI music.

Didn't we all start as kids listening to music that is so formulaic that it could as well be AI-generated? A subset of people iteratively refines their music tastes and starts listening everything from bebop to obscure Canadian hardcore bands and will recognize quality in music.

I'm not of the opinion that art is dead.

But I am of the opinion that AI slop is displacing a lot of would-be beginner musicians and making it even harder for them to break out.

For better or worse, a lot of beginner artists were relying upon my nieces and their classmates) clicking on their music and sharing them for Spotify $$$.

I'm looking forward to being able to play an endless stream of (background) music that is generated on the fly with my preferences, never to be heard again by anyone unless I hit a button to capture what I last heard. How cool would that be? I'm tired of scouring through volumes of sounds I don't enjoy to find a rare nugget.
For the past year, I think I've watched more AI generated video content than movies in terms of hours spent. Some of it is quite good (eg. Neuralwiz)! Granted, I watch very few movies, but still, I'd say this kind of counts.
I think I watched more Italian Brainrot than all other video content combined
Have you seen any recent mainstream movie made by "a person"? "Human made" is not the quality brand most people are looking for today. If authors are mentaly ill and have shitty personality, AI slop will be better.
please don't speak of the mentality I'll like we are subhuman.
Nobody will sue you for that. In every age we have had people like you, wishing things would go back to "normal", and w.r.t. technology you lot never get your way, but neither do you cause problems for anybody else. All you're doing is pissing into the wind and getting yourself wet, as is your right.
I think this time is different. I’m not Gen Z, yet once my kids are out of school, I’m planning to leave tech behind as much as possible.

When I started in tech, at the dawn of the internet, it was an exciting field full of hope and the promise to empower and enrich the lives of people. Tech now is largely the opposite.

Enshitification is making things progressively worse. tech companies are creating systems and tools with dark patterns abound to ensure you no longer own anything, are under constant surveillance, and populations at large are manipulated through the magic of propaganda and illusory truth. Even the productivity gains are perversely used to not give people more time through fewer work days/hours but to instead give them more work. People are losing their connection to others and the world around them.

Everyone tends to focus on Orwell’s 1984, but I find Fahrenheit 451 to be the more prescient book. I used to be annoyed by the book people’s choice to leave society and wait for it to collapse so they could help rebuild. In my mind, they should have been mounting an resistance. Fair to say I understand the book people’s perspective so much more now.

The amish seem to be quite happy.
You mean "OK". Or did you see evidence that they are specifically quite happy?
Seasonality of mood and behavior in the Old Order Amish (Raheja & al), shows reduced rates of Seasonal Affective Disorder in the Amish population.

So at least they are quite happy during winter.

The Amish are a cult.

Some of them are quite happy! Others are miserable; many are abused. It's a high-control group, that raises its children to believe the outside world as a terrible, scary place, and they are the only safe place to be.

Many people are happy in cults, or they couldn't function. But that doesn't mean that the cults are, overall, a positive thing.

> only safe place to be

Originating from 17th century persecution for their religous beliefs and practices. I can't speak of modern-day mistreatment of the group.

You frame this as if all technology is inherently good and anyone who opposes it is just dumb and wasting their time. People used to think Segways were dumb. They used to think 3D TVs were dumb. They used to think lobotomies were dumb. They used to think Xray shoe sizing was dumb. They used to think uranium in household appliances and toys was dumb.

And they were all right.

I hear that attitude about AI is much more positive in China. So people like him, in aggregate, could potentially be a danger and cause the US to give up the lead for the rest of century. Takes one bad election..
People who reject AI are a danger? Wow. This just sounds like setting up the foundation of narrative for having the government bail out these AI companies when bill finally comes due.
Will it need bailing out or will it take everyone’s jobs? The opposition to AI needs to make up their mind.
Do we though? Both outcomes suck.
That narrative was pioneered in internal discussion about bailing out crypto.
The narratives around the pressure to blindly accept AI is crazy. They try every angle from "you are a communist", to "you are too stupid".

I speculate it has a lot to do with surveillance capitalism. It's the same type of tactics that have been used for things like the banning of marijuana, or the health merits of cigarettes. Fear mongering and lying so a few robber Barron's can profiteer.

I think AI is useful. I think it was rolled out haphazardly similar to how people used to gargle radioactive isotopes or slather them on as after shave so others can profit quickly. There are so many issues with the technology that the press won't even cover yet because we all have to play stupid until trends emerge to report on otherwise billionaire defense contractors will send their figurative or possibly literal hit squads after us. We have to wait for the tumors to grow, the jaws to fall off before society will remember "maybe we shouldn't be slapping radioactive stuff all over ourselves so some wealthy white dude gets wealthier"

The future of ai is in small local models people pay 0 dollars to upgrade or use. Anything else is meritless exploitation and destruction. That's why the US will lose. Reality has a liberal bias. Tough pill for ai libertarians to swallow. So they mud fling.

oh, I think the AI users are communists.

after all, they think that a) they have a right to my property and b) creativity and hard work are dead