[dijksterhuis]

> I've already got my agent building a dossier for everyone we interact with. I haven't started training it on their writing style so I can mirror back to them... yet.

have you asked these people how they feel about this? have you asked them for permission, for their consent to do this with their communications to you?

what you’re doing sounds incredibly creepy. like, meta/facebook kinda of creepy. granted, it’s at a more limited scale, but it’s still creepy af dude.

fwiw, if i was your colleague and you asked me how i felt about you doing this with me, i’d be seeing about getting HR involved.

[anon84873628]

Um, I absolutely expect my colleagues to update their internal model of me every time we communicate, to a greater or lesser degree depending on how much that communication deviates from their expectations, or how much new information it contains. In fact, that is essentially the purpose of communication.

Do you think you are not constantly being "influenced" to do what people want from you?

What do think happens during a peer review or promotion decision?

What do you think the pile of data in SharePoint / GDrive represents?

You think HR will care about someone taking prolific detailed notes at work?

I did phrase my comment in a glib way to draw out this type of reaction. But this type of stuff is what "intelligence augmentation" will include, and the corporate panopticon is already alive and well anyway.

[dijksterhuis]

their mental model. the human being’s mental model. the one in our private head. not some model on a corporate server, some secret “dossier” on every interaction you’ve ever had with them. you’re basically creating your own black book / surveillance tool on everyone you interact with dude.

just because the corporations do this to us doesn’t make it okay to do it to each other. just because your employer does it doesn’t mean it’s okay to do to your co-workers. like, there has to be a degree of trust between colleagues dude.

compiling a record of every single thing anyone has ever said to you, an individual human being who is not a corporation or a machine, all for the purposes of “it makes my emails better” is just plain fucking creepy.

i think you might need some time away from the screen. seriously.

> i did phrase my comment in a glib way to draw out this type of reaction.

maybe, just maybe, it would be a good idea to take a bit of time to seriously think about why being glib about this super creepy thing you’re doing is not a good thing.

bit of self-reflection. the thing us humans are supposedly still capable of doing and the machines are not.

[whattheheckheck]

Really makes you wonder about freewill and information determinism

[trollbridge]

Well, implicit in the TOS of things like Gmail, etc. is already permission to do this.

[drawfloat]

That’s not how the real world works. You will be kicked out of the workplace and rightly so.

[dijksterhuis]

does that make it morally okay to do with your colleagues?

like, jfc, these are fucking people were talking about building “dossiers” of. people the person works with where a degree of trust and bonding is necessary. people they probably spend at least a quarter of their waking hours interacting with.

and your defence for it is “well, google does it”.

the best engineers know what not to build. they don’t build every single thing under the sun because they can.

also, don’t you have to explicitly agree to google’s terms for that stuff to use their services?