[fidotron]

> I could write an enormous rant about TURN [1]. But all of the webrtc protocol suite is designed for an internet that doesn't exist.

This is closer to being the real problem with WebRTC than the whole "it's making decisions about latency that I disagree with".

If you had a way to setup the tracks/channels over UDP connections that didn't involve P2P/STUN/TURN etc. but got to keep all the codec negotiation and things like AEC that would be awesome. MoQ isn't that though, because it's by people that don't actually see the whole problem end-to-end; just their little piece of it in the middle.