[chr1]

For instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_service. 12 year old would be pretty fine to spend 4-5 hours a day cleaning streets for a while.

Btw. I am not advocating for work programs as a particularly good solution, expelling and letting the parents to figure out what to do with their misbehaving child is a good solution too. School is a privilege for smart children to study, not a prison for those who do not want to learn.

[gambiting]

>> School is a privilege for smart children to study, not a prison for those who do not want to learn.

It's actually neither of those things, because we discovered hundreds of years ago that having an educated population is good for everyone. No, it's not a prison, but it's not a privilege either - you have to be in school until certain age. Work is not substitute for education.

[dotancohen]

Have an educated population does not mean that every last uncivilized brat needs to participate. Especially if he is distracting other people from acquiring an education.

[gambiting]

...how do you think we got to the literacy rates we have now?

And schools have been able to deal with "brats" for over a century without kicking them out of school.

[chr1]

Being in school does not make one educated. Keeping disruptive child in the same room with normal children, means we get fewer educated people, not more.

[gambiting]

Which is exactly why I advocate for not keeping them in the same classroom as other kids.

[dotancohen]

Most bullying happens outside the classroom.

[gambiting]

I mean, we can repeat facts at each other, or we can carry on with the conversation in some more specific direction if you wish?