[wahnfrieden]

The incredulity at 10x claims is often unearned because how much do these skeptics actually notice and appreciate the depth of work of ten developers collaborating on something (if not their own org)? Dev output slips by quietly. There are reams of unnoticed projects even at the scale of a life’s work.

[Capricorn2481]

This doesn't pass a sniff test at any small organization. And wouldn't these devs see this 10x claim themselves?

[cyanydeez]

I'm assuming the devs are seeing 10x code generation and equating that to the improvement.

It's when they practically ignore the rabbit holes where it's suspect. I'm definitely seeing speed ups. I troubleshot a linux system yesterday with minimal effort using a local llm. It likely would have taken me a few hours to locate all the docs & testing procedures. the llm did it with only a few prompts. To ensure it did it correctly, I had to interrogate it a few times before letting it proceed.

Humans make really bad scientists, and it takes a lot of effort to properly catalog and provide statistics for these things.

There is an improvement, but I doubt any random dev can give a real estimate since before LLMs they couldnt really give you a real estimate anyway. I do know when I encounter a bug now, debugging is almost immediately possible.

[steve_adams_86]

My small organization is noticing output increasing. We're excited about it. I’m not sure about 10x… Like others have mentioned, it’s difficult because you have to measure different workloads.

I build things I never would have. My tooling is better and more robust than ever. I verify and test my work better than ever. I fix more bugs than I used to simply because no one needs to care if it fits into a cycle. I explore and solve more problems in more parts of the application, even if I don’t write code. I take better care of our infrastructure. Performance goes up, bugs go down, AWS resources scale back, costs go down. I’ve paid for my AI usage in scaled back resources several times over at this point.

It might not be 10x but it’s a significant multiple.