[tardedmeme]

What if you log into the app and then log out of the app and then log into the app again? Should you be able to see your messages?

E2EE is a fail-secure design. In case of any doubt it deletes your private messages. When applied to this case I don't think the downside of constantly losing all your messages outweighs the upside of Facebook pretending they don't have a copy of all of them.

[danparsonson]

Are you asking for technical details about E2EE in messaging apps, or simply making the point that you don't like it? If you don't like it, then fine, you do you, however I would point out that we all accept some inconvenience in our lives as a trade off for improved security; the lock on my front door is inconvenient but I'd rather have it than not.

As to whether or not Meta have been lying about it, then that would be on-brand for them, but then what are they turning off if so? Or maybe the whole thing is theatre, and I should better disconnect from the internet altogether? I don't see the value in speculating about that.

[tardedmeme]

I'm asking you about how you want the world to work.

[danparsonson]

Well then, I think E2EE is a good thing and I'll take the minor inconveniences.

[tardedmeme]

Not being able to receive messages except on one device isn't a minor inconvenience.

To fix this, you either need to authorize each device (and web browser) from another device that's logged in, or the central authority holds your keys.

[danparsonson]

I run WhatsApp concurrently on two phones and receive all messages on both devices. But generally speaking this is where we disagree - requiring all devices to be authorised by me is feature not a bug as far as I'm concerned.