[Dylan16807]

Is the frog the guy that still won't automate their certificates?

[nottorp]

Mine are automated. Somehow it reminds me of prayer wheels though...

[Dylan16807]

Forcing certificates to expire in less than a year means people don't forget how to update them, which is a big benefit.

And once people automate, short-lived certificates are a workable plan B for how to revoke certificates and have the revocation actually work.

These are both reasonable goals.

[nottorp]

> people don't forget how to update them

Seriously? I don't even remember how the letsencrypt auto renew service is called. No idea how I did the initial setup either.

[Dylan16807]

Yes, seriously. Forgetting how to set up the automation is a different and significantly smaller issue.