[fl4regun]

I also don't "need" nor "depend" on hacker news to live. We're talking about websites like they are vital to living, that's not real. They are not. The closest thing to a website someone actually "needs" might be a government website (to report or file taxes maybe) or a bank website (assuming no brick and mortar locations near you). Let's not use words like "need" and "depend" to mean much lighter things like "is convenient" and "frictionless".

[rexpop]

People need and depend on social relations, and those relations need a medium.

[fl4regun]

Social relations do not require internet access. Social relations can be make through it, but it is not pre-requisite.