[kspacewalk2]

I think this is the hidden reason why the American alt-right/far-right/MAGA/techbro types hate the EU with so much apoplectic rage. For all its problems, big-picture-like it actually works to gradually coalesce a huge rich continent with a bigger population than the US into something increasingly more coherent, and if it continues to work it will mean that the Western world now has two heavyweight leaders, not one. For people who tend to view the world as a giant zero-sum dominance competition, this is of course a big threat. One more big player = one more competitor.

(The techbros hate it for a different, if related, reason - they aren't nearly as successful at capturing regulators, astroturfing and controlling discourse, and otherwise taking charge of that second entity as they are with the hapless US federal government).

[roenxi]

> (The techbros hate it for a different, if related, reason - they aren't nearly as successful at capturing regulators, astroturfing and controlling discourse, and otherwise taking charge of that second entity as they are with the hapless US federal government).

I'd propose a different reason - the techbros disassociate with the EU because if someone want to work in tech that means getting fairly intimate with US culture, companies and markets. There is a reason this conversation is happening on a message board backed by a US company (moderated to US standards, I might add) - the Europeans don't have the ecosystem to sustain something similar.

If Europe were capable of building the ecosystems needed to fielding a large number of competent tech companies then techbros would start turning up there too.

[kortilla]

Don’t make shit up about people you don’t understand.

>American alt-right/far-right/MAGA/techbro

Bucketing these all together doesn’t even make sense. A “techbro” has completely different reasons to dislike the EU (regulatory regime unfriendly to tech startups) than some MAGA focused on US competitors.

As someone from the tech industry, I’m disappointed in the EU as it falls further and further behind on innovation. I love the EU though and frequently visit it (which is not something a MAGA would do).

[kspacewalk2]

I didn't bucket the haters, I bucketed the latent reason for their hatred.

[TitaRusell]

Europe is the birthplace of democracy, socialism, feminism and secularism.

Ofcourse Christ conservatives hate it.

[Jensson]

And remember Christianity come from the middle east.

[kspacewalk2]

Jesus would have foreseen the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz before launching a war of choice on the Persians.

[truthaboutpl]

Good thing we are a Democratic Republic :)

[pavlov]

All non-monarchies in Europe are republics too. It’s by far the most common type of democracy. It’s unclear to me why some Americans insist on making a distinction that doesn’t exist.