[retinaros]

french and german working class tax. and obviously great leadership to use EU and that money well to win. unlike france for instance that got outplayed by germany that itself got outplayed by their dear ally the USA and are now going into energy obsolescence.

[6d6b73]

German working class is actually benefiting from this as Poland it one of their biggest importers now. And they are still benefiting from slave labor, stolen precious metals, and art they got during the WW2. Not to mention the Marshall Plan. They really can't be complaining.

[12986-112]

German working class is displaced or has their salaries driven down by either Poles or Romanians working in Germany while their families live cheaply at home or by corporations moving factories to Poland and Romania.

You have no clue what you are talking about. I wonder why this sort of obnoxious reasoning always comes from Poles and never from Czech people for example.

[bboozzoo]

I believe this is called competition, encouraged since the EU markets are open and freedom of migration is guaranteed. If it wasn't for those guys, you'll have migrant workers from Ukraine, or India or some other place. However, I suspect that before the Poles and Romanians came to DE, you already had quite a bit of migration from Spain, Italy and Turkey, isn't that right?

[6d6b73]

Wait, but I thought Germans love slave labor? Is that not a case anymore? What happened?

[skfhaT]

We want better slaves. Poles and Romanian builders deliver shoddy work.

[1718627440]

> German working class is actually benefiting from this as Poland it one of their biggest importers now.

Yes they do.

> And they are still benefiting from slave labor

Not sure whether that really matters now-a-days for the economy.

> stolen precious metals

One of the cores of industrial and mine centers that made the German Empire thrive during the Belle Epoque, are now owned by Poland.

> Not to mention the Marshall Plan.

Half of Germany, didn't got to get it but where instead paying reparations for whole Germany. Sorry, I'm a bit tired of acting like Germany only got the history of being on the west side of the iron curtain. It got both treatments.

[pzo]

> Sorry, I'm a bit tired of acting like Germany only got the history of being on the west side of the iron curtain. It got both treatments.

Well glass that has half of water is still better that glass fully empty. Poland didn't get any war reparations and after being more destroyed during the war than germany (warsaw burned to the ground) and pretty much occupied for many decades after the war then how polish companies supposed to compete with any western economy including germany?

[6d6b73]

It got both treatments because of their actions in WW2.

[1718627440]

Sure, did you read that I didn't think that? The issue is a lot of domestic politicians are from the western part and don't acknowledge that situation with their actions. The only party, that managed to add this to their public image is the far right party, which is a huge problem.

[retinaros]

No working class of a developped country will benefit from anything of value by using lower cost markets to import stuff and workers. CEOs and shareholder will in the shortterm and that is all they want so they can get rewarded next earning quarter. On the long term they will loose but they will already have moved to another company. Europe is a scam to ruin countries and a dictatorship that now wants to remove vpns and freedom of speech from its citizen