[_heimdall]

I don't read this as employing 20% was twiddling their thumbs and sitting around.

If it means anything beyond economic issues, I read the implication as their LLM expenses have gone threw the roof and with the choice of cutting LLM use or cutting headcount, well we see what mattered more to them.

[draftsman]

Unfortunately I think we’ll see more and more of this as companies continue to encourage their employees to use LLMs everywhere and for everything. Eventually they will have to come to terms with the cost of such mandates, and it’s either ask your employees to “use AI less,” or it’s let some percentage go and continue to let the rest burn tokens.

[ok_dad]

I am perplexed at how it can cost so much. I have been using AI every day, all day for a few months now and I have not even gotten to spending $300 a month. I use Cursor for teams, so we get ~$80 of usage for our ~$40 per member, then we pay Cursor's upcharged API rates from there, and I STILL don't spend more than $300 a month, if that. What the hell is everyone doing with their fucking tokens?

[datadrivenangel]

You set cursor to use Opus 4.7 and ask it to review your branch commits and then it looks at stuff for a bit and that's $10.

[davebren]

By judging employees by how many tokens they burn.

[RevEng]

Most of our employees don't hit their $50/month cap. Others end up into the hundreds. It depends on how you use it.

[DangitBobby]

Those 20% were unproductive in the literal sense or the economic sense.

[shimman]

No, it is more accurate to say that leadership at Cloudflare does not know what they are doing nor have they known what to do for a good decade now.

Acting like workers at Cloudflare have any meaningful say in how work is made or the direction of the company is delusional neoliberal fantasy thinking.

The onus of poor business outcomes is laid directly on its leadership. Saying that workers were unproductive when they were coerced to follow leadership's mandates is just straight up class warfare.

Dang it Bobby indeed.

[Azkar]

> No, it is more accurate to say that leadership at Cloudflare does not know what they are doing nor have they known what to do for a good decade now.

I think we're starting to see that across the entire industry. Leadership is easy when times are good. The job has gotten very hard.

[DangitBobby]

So you would contend it's in the economic sense. It wasn't intended as an assignment of blame, I was just saying Cloudflare either thinks they weren't doing the job or job they were doing wasn't making money.

[danaw]

llms don't need healthcare or stock grants

[_heimdall]

And if Jevans paradox wins out, all that money will just go towards tokens.