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by 0xBA5ED 40 days ago
Not a great solution, honestly. Long term drug abuse is almost never a victimless habit. I'm tempted to say never.
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This isn't the 1980s anymore. Using drugs is perfectly fine. A ton of people here on HN take drugs regularly, but few think it's worth to rock the boat against this kind of nonsense you're spreading
Have you ever interacted with a heroine or meth user?

Sometimes using drugs is fine, depending on the drug, the reason, and the person. For example, I did cocaine once and immediately knew I needed to cut ties with those friends because if I had access to it regularly, I would ruin my life. Others can do coke recreationally and not have an issue. Others can't form the insight I had until their lives are in shambles, and maybe not even then.

  > Have you ever interacted with a heroine or meth user?
Yes, I have, and so have you. The thing is You wouldn't notice that they were in fact drug users unless they told you.
> Crack?! I've got company!

> Oh, relax! "Oh, I'm Mark, I'm in the '80s, I'm dying of heroin in a puddle in the corner in an advert!" Drugs are fine, Mark, everyone agrees now. Drugs are what happen to people, and that's fine, so shut up.

https://youtu.be/yoZ1EGxPaOE?t=19

You actually changed what I said then declared it nonsense. I said abuse, not use.
Because the word "use" and "abuse" are interchangeable for prohibitionists
How do you separate those legally? I ask, because we are discussing using the legal system here.
I will admit, I didn't think it through super deeply, but I have a very simple (and possibly naive) proposal.

We separate them legally the same way we separate alcohol use vs. alcohol abuse. The consequences of getting caught for speeding vs. getting caught for speeding while under influence tend to drastically differ in magnitude, so I suggest we do the same for other kinds of drug abuse.

Being under influence shouldn't be a mitigating factor while committing crimes, but for non-driving offenses it often ends up being such. So I suggest we treat it the same way for violent crimes as we do for driving offenses.