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by tekne 44 days ago
Perhaps -- "the baseline is a decent life". Lots of people are willing to work really hard for perks and glory -- honestly, you can even take more risks if you're young and you know your life's not on the line
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> the baseline is a decent life

The trouble with that is the same reason communism fails - too many people decide to just live off of the work of others, and play video games all day.

Also, who is going to work as a janitor? Most jobs are not filled with glory. They're tedious - that's why they are called "work".

You know... janitorial work really is an excellent example:

- Some labor is easy both to offshore and to automate -- e.g. factory work

- Some labor can be offshored a lot more easily than it can be automated -- this causes at least a practical problem for the "nice UBI" countries. I'm struggling to think of particularly good examples...

- Some labor can be automated more easily than it can be offshored, e.g. self-driving

- Some labor is "rare enough" that it can potentially be well-paid -- my intuition says construction and repair, especially with the aid of machines

But janitorial labor is low-status, is required constantly, needs to be done on-site, and is really hard for a robot.

So a particularly good UBI test: how do you hire janitors?

It's not necessarily impossible -- for example, if a few shifts of janitorial labor could double this "decent baseline," would people pick it up? Would this leave it affordable?