[TFNA]

> Maybe the fediverse can (eventually) help? It’s been a while since I looked at it.

The fediverse has been around for well over a decade in some form or another. It never caught on with society enough to make a difference. And unfortunately, the fediverse has now developed such a distinct culture of its own, Highly Online people with distinctive political and social shibboleths, that it even alienates many tech idealists around the world, let alone the general public.

[krapp]

The general public isn't alienated from the fediverse because of its distinctive political and social shibboleths, the general public simply doesn't know that it exists.

As far as the "tech idealists," a lot of them seem to want every space to be 4chan where they can be racist trolling assholes without consequence. And those folks have Nostr.

[randusername]

Well that's kinda the trade-off isn't it?

Centralization normalizes, but a very large reasonably similar group of people is an ideal target for infiltration by outside interests.

Decentralization incubates eccentricity or extremism, but are more likely to be beneath the notice of outside interests.

I think these trade-offs are more visible in online spaces where the scale of reach or opacity is exaggerated in comparison to physical space.