[bravoyankee]

In a few years the market will have already decided.

The signs are out there. The cop-out design of the iPhone 5, the "blue sky" initiative started with the employees -they are scrambling for new ideas.

Steve Jobs was the soul of Apple. His fire is gone. He took it with him.

[Steko]

I look forward to hearing about the fortune you made shorting AAPL in 3 years.

[randomdata]

Your thoughts may prove to come true, but R&D is a multi-year undertaking, not something you scramble on at the last hour. The iPad was in development since 2002! Jobs has only been gone for a year. His influence should remain for at least the next five years, and only after that point can we really say if Apple is out of ideas or not.

[jpxxx]

"Cop out?" Do elaborate.

[lotso]

What does cop-out design mean? That they didn't completely change it?

[taligent]

I always laugh at clueless people who keep talking about current devices like iPad Mini or iPhone 5 as a sign that Apple is dying without Steve Jobs.

Especially when Steve Jobs was personally involved in all of these decisions.