[jamilton]

I think it's a mistake to view any politics as bolted on. I think it's unlikely some people were interested in "mindful and resilient and ecological use of computing" completely apolitically, with no other political or ideological background.

This principles page doesn't seem to have any irrelevant politics to me.

[bccdee]

> There are huge environmental and societal issues in today's computing, and permacomputing specifically wants to challenge them in the same way as permaculture has challenged industrial agriculture.

Permacomputing seems like a body of values and practices that is extremely grounded in a particular political perspective.

It's odd to regard permaculture, degrowth, anarchism, decoloniality, intersectional feminism, etc. as completely orthogonal. They're all part of a shared tradition of thought—not an "omnicause," but an ecosystem. You won't find a lot of people who love intersectional feminism but hate decoloniality. Appropriately enough, plucking a single plant from the earth and then dismissing the rest of the garden is exactly the type of blinkered thinking which permaculture discourages.

[hitekker]

I'm unconvinced. https://duskos.org/ doesn't tell a story about fashionable ideologies fused-together for the greater good. Dusk/Collapse OS does what it says on the tin, minus moralizing and metaphors.

In any case, I detect an omnicause because people are sloganeering on its behalf below:

"If you see this as political, you should fix yourself", "computing is related to colonialism", "everything is political" etc.