[lproven]

> rEFInd is _so_ much simpler

TBH I've only used it for Hackintoshes and BSDs. I don't know why you'd want it.

But I am finding this hard to post on account of this big hairy grey thing with a long prehensile nose that's in the way...

They only work on UEFI. I don't like UEFI. I have kit in near-daily use that doesn't have UEFI at all.

GRUB works on BIOS, UEFI, x86, Arm, whatever. It boots Linux, all the BSDs, Haiku, whatever. So GRUB wins.

I hate GRUB for its hostility and unfriendliness and impenetrability... But it does the job on more kit than, well, any of the alternatives.

[p_l]

You haven't upgraded any x86 compatible beyond 2005? /s

[lproven]

/s notwithstanding... no.

I run a bunch of decade-old HP Microservers. All BIOS-only.

My personal laptops are old Thinkpads, from before the keyboards went crappy & Lenovo took away the expansion options. So they're all about 15, ?20 generation at the newest, but they are all maxed-out and go like stink. BIOS boot mode optional.

My default hypervisor is VirtualBox, because it runs the same on Linux, Windows and Mac. Defaults to BIOS boot.

This is not like some ancient history. All run current OSes and distros.

[p_l]

Thinkpads were all UEFI since T410 (and related other models), not to mention a lot of non-thinkpad machines since ~2005 were UEFI Type 1 (i.e. "always boot to BIOS emulation mode, but everything underneath is UEFI").

Thus the /s :-)