[fnoef]

This is such an absurd take.

For starters, if I'm a "house builder" by trade, then yeah, I am going to build the house myself. Otherwise, why should the client pay me, and not the guy I'm subcontracting?

Secondly, there is no such thing as a "house builder" profession. It consists of a lot of different trades people, some of them having legal power to sign off your house build (for example an electrician). Now, we could try to push for something similar in software engineering, and say require you to have an "authentication engineering certificate" in order to handle code related to auth, and only a person holding the certificate can allow such code for production use. But I'm pretty sure all the vibe coders and tech bros will cry how unfair and bureaucratic the system is.

But of course the entire SWE profession is based on grifting, and extracting as much money as possible from the customers while cutting the costs. If you are so afraid to save passwords to a database, then at least don't call yourself a software engineer.

[square_usual]

> For starters, if I'm a "house builder" by trade

You're not a house builder, you're a widget maker who needs a house to live in. Auth is almost never your startup's core competency or offering. Spending one of your very valuable five engineers on the auth tarpit while you lose deals because SSO is hard could be life and death for you.

[therealpygon]

Clearly!

It’s humorous that these conclusions are that the only option is SaaS or write it yourself, while my comments were about not doing things yourself, not that a SaaS is the only answer. Interesting that is how you felt the need to take it.

People are rarely as clever as they think they are at preventing others from doing something, while others only need to find one thing wrong. “Write it myself” is about the dumbest answer to that problem if you do not have the same level of resources to commit to that specific problem as can be solved by someone else.

Not really a hot take to state something so…basic..but you’re welcome to conclude what you like.