[splatzone]

What advantage do you think they have?

[peyton]

I’m not happy with their privacy policy [1]. I’m unfamiliar with the phrase “Parties with Other Legal Rights”. Given the well-documented struggles of Anthropic and others to provide enough compute, I wonder if “Parties with Other Legal Rights” constitutes part of the advantage here.

[1]: https://cdn.deepseek.com/policies/en-US/deepseek-privacy-pol...

[2ndorderthought]

Just run a local model or run deepseek from another provider with a policy you like. The models are open weight and widely available. Still cheaper than chatgpt and anything else through 3rd parties

[yehosef]

this is the pitch - it's open source, run it yourself. But >99% of people will not have the hardware needed to run these models at a high enough quality to be close to SOTA. So they will run the open-source models on CCP systems for a good price.

[2ndorderthought]

What I mean is you can use providers who also host deepseek models for pennies without touching deepseek itself.

[iosjunkie]

I’m only seeing 3x the cost of DeepSeek for other providers on Open Router. Is there a better place to look?

[2ndorderthought]

I haven't really had this issue but deepinfra claims to have us servers and looks pretty cheap to me.

[ralph84]

Operating in a jurisdiction where US companies can't sue them.

[serf]

a lack of existential threat in the form of pay-seeking and remediation from the people you stole training materials from that allows for an intrinsically different pace of operation than the Western competition

[cogman10]

A sane government policy that invests heavily on innovative businesses.