[wakawaka28]

>Yes, anti-vaxers are inherently irrational. Overwhelming benefits do not change their opinion because being anti-vaccine is a core part of their identity.

There are people like this but you can say the same about anything. Pro-pharma vax promoters definitely make "trust the science, don't do research or question anything from authorities" part of their identity too.

[brendoelfrendo]

> Pro-pharma vax promoters definitely make "trust the science, don't do research or question anything from authorities" part of their identity too.

"Trust the science, don't do research" isn't really a thing that I've seen from the supporters of infant vaccination. Typically, "trust the science" means that there's a broad scientific consensus on something. Doing individual research is fine, but knowing the limits of your own expertise is important. In the anti-vax community, I often see people stressing the importance of doing your own research or questioning authority, but then they latch on to poor-quality research, or misinterpreting results because they don't understand how to read them correctly (see: the entirety of the movement that believes vaccines cause autism).

[wakawaka28]

Everything you're saying is reasonable but the ultimate conclusion of such views is that disagreement with "expert consensus" is not allowed. Your entire thread with me has been disparaging people and insulting their intelligence based on nothing but knowing that they don't want to take some vaccine. Some of the people you're smearing are actual doctors, PhDs, and people who have knowledge of their own physiology that nobody else can possibly know. Yet they get shouted down by smug jerks for various reasons.

Speaking of unscientific takes, the 6 foot distance standard and the mask mandates are both not supported with scientific evidence. The actual evidence for these is inconclusive at best. The primary justification is apriori reasoning. You might say "Oh it's better than nothing" but that is not guaranteed, and businesses went bankrupt, kids didn't learn in school, and people were let out of PRISON based on these mandates. So-called scientists set in motion extreme paranoia and tyranny upon all of us and I will never forget that.