[ErneX]

Visit if you can, and take some bullet trains! We had a blast last year there.

[_DeadFred_]

Shanghai was great in the 2010s. Seems like a different place today.

Are the bullet trains making enough to pay down construction debt yet? My understanding is that that has been a struggle, which is going to be a problem when they get past being new and start having more and more maintenance expense on top of paying back construction debt.

[theendisney]

They dont have to, they are reqired to make the country work. Its like trying to make us roads profitable.

[munk-a]

Or having some silly notion that the post service should be profitable.

Public services generally provide public good that outweighs their cost. Trying to quantify and charge for that cost is a useless exercise.

[m4rtink]

Well, the Shinkansen lines managed to bankrupt JNR in Japan just fine. :) Still they are a massive benefit for the country.

[try-working]

I've been living in Shanghai sinze 2010, with some time in between in Shenzhen. Shanghai is much better now than in the 2010s.

[_DeadFred_]

That is awesome. I hate the weird 'window' we get into places online, I need to learn to ignore it. I loved the city and it's people!

I hate the current bs going on in the US against China. It reminds me of the Japan scare crap pushed in the US when I was a kid.

[ErneX]

I cannot compare with 2010 since it was my 1st time but I liked Shanghai.

Chongqing too!