[giancarlostoro]

Or I could use a web framework that offers that out of the box, and its free and lives in my database, wherever I want.

[mchusma]

I’ve looked at these auth providers many times over the years and I just don’t get the value. It takes me a couple of minutes to set up auth. Why would I want a dependency? It doesn’t help me with the hardest part which is configuring Google and Apple sign in stuff on Google and Apple. I just don’t get it.

[rozap]

this is sorta the obvious takeaway here. as a postgres/phoenix/elixir enjoyer i am blissfully unaware of all this sort of SaaS churn.

[vevoe]

I use better auth for a side project i'm working on. It's open source, you can pay them to manage your user/auth tables if you want or you can run it all on your own db.

[giancarlostoro]

Sure, I guess if I'm using a web framework that is not quite batteries included, that makes sense, but Django, ASP .NET Core, Ruby on Rails, and so many others are open source and have authentication / users / roles baked in out of the box.

[Scarbutt]

What framework offers all those auth features OOTB?

[dsagent]

Laravel

https://laravel.com/docs/13.x/authentication

https://laravel.com/docs/13.x/socialite

https://laravel.com/docs/13.x/sanctum

[giancarlostoro]

ASP .NET Core, Ruby on Rails, Django, .... the list goes on and on... The ones that don't usually someone built a package that lets it happen.

[skydhash]

I remember Laravel with Socialite [0]. Laravel is what I usually reach for Web SaaS MVP. You only need a VPS and a managed database for testing out the market and can scale a lot without increasing expenses that much..

[0]: https://laravel.com/docs/13.x/socialite

[zuzululu]

Take this post down immediately ! /jk

[skydhash]

Lol, I developed for entrepreneurs who mostly wanted a working proof of concept of their ideas. I guess now you can vibecode them with SaaS for core technical needs.