[RiverCrochet]

My sister had an interesting take on this:

"These countries also directly take care of their citizens, which I think is an important factor. Other societies will let you be homeless and say it is your fault for being broke even when employers terminate you purely for economic reasons or when there simply aren't enough jobs to go around. That backdrop contributes to desperation and predatory mindsets."

I disagree with her though, because that sounds communistic and can only lead to empty store shelves, tattered housing blocs, and the state preventing me from listening to the same rock music songs I've heard since the 1970's.

[lava_pidgeon]

There are many western states with welfare state. Do you think otherwise?

[rfrey]

Countries taking care of their citizens is communism? A social safety net leads to empty store shelves? Am I the latest victim of Poe's Law here?

Every advanced economy in the world except for the United States has a well developed social safety net, and I assure you our shelves are not empty and I can listen to all the Mötley Crüe I desire.

[gottorf]

> Every advanced economy in the world except for the United States has a well developed social safety net

The United States has a very well-developed social safety net, despite what Reddit likes to claim. It spends a ton of money making sure the poor are fed, housed, and clothed. There exist literal generations of people who have lived on the public dole.

[DonHopkins]

> the state preventing me from listening to the same rock music songs I've heard since the 1970's

Oh, come on, stop whining. Skrewdriver is still on Spotify.

You're such a snowflake, posing as the victim of government oppression.