[l2s0]

congrats, durable workflow is awesome I am currently using effect-ts. personally I can not complain, it is in typescript, hard to pick up from but once you do, life get much better.

What you are building is awesome though, I am looking forward to learn more about your growth and how LLM is effecting this market, if everyone can code now, which framework of durable execution should non tech users use. What is the ergonomic for durable execution for agents ?

these question has been on my mind lately too. curious to know how OP think about this

[_alphageek]

Thanks! Effect-ts is totally different tools though. It's an effect system (managing side effects, composability, error channels), while orch8 is about durable execution: your workflow survives crashes, deploys, and restarts without losing a single step. Currently LLM drives demand for the orchestration systems. As them requires loops under them to solve the real-world problems. The core principles under orch8 is to have llm heavy workflows, f.e. llm step is exists out of the box and it can modify execution at a runtime. Regarding which framework for non-tech users, in my humble opinion - non of the yet. Effect-ts requires steep learning, temporal requires understanding of determinism constraints. Even Inngest assumes you can write code. Declarative way of defining workflows, in my opinion is the way to og. As llm can generate declarations, workers, tests and run on their own. I shipped also cloud.orch8, one of the core ideas is the templates, where user can click through template - fill their variables and have their executions running with 0 code. but as ti is early development, I did not develop many templates yet - something I gonna focus next few months.In slightly far future I plan to ha templates marketplace, where people can earn money for designing solutions for other people/companies.