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by riedel 42 days ago
And cloudflare can actually sell them priority access to pass their bot protection or introduce micropaiments for agents access content. I feel cloudflare is getting a bit scary tbh. It is like your friendly bot net.
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This made me realise they’re doing the same thing the AI labs are doing: selling both the problem and the solution.

They are arming spammers and scammers with these tools so you need their product to protect yourself from them

Welcome to the grift economy.
state did this for centuries or longer btw. they create violence/war in some area of the planet, then offer to "fix it".

like wmd's in iraq and hormuz problem now, lmao. remember how hormuz was not a problem and it was wideoy peaceful and open months ago? lol

you can just say "Society"; it's bizarre people think there's some magic to governance that's above in beyond people forming groups and rules.
Depends on how democratic the Society is. The less so, the more it's a powerful minority at the top. How much say did the average US citizen have in starting this war with Iran? It's not something the current administration ran on to get elected. It's not very popular in the polling.
but you live in these "states" so aren't you the problem?
It's the western great fire wall, good thing the things within the fire wall is huge and encapsulate still most of the world.
I mean, Cloudflare was always kind of scary. They filter the world wide web, literally.
Yea, I appreciate them protecting it from DDOS. I always viewed them as a responsible company.

To me this feels irresponsible and like it's main goal is to forward autonomous cyber attacks. Which is antithetical to what they do? Maybe I am missing the legitimate use case here, but I can only see this being used for removing responsibility from crime or espionage?

Does anyone know offhand if cloudflare is a department of war contractor? I never looked into it. But this smells funny to me

Somehow the Internet needs biometrics and age verification everywhere but also chat bots can buy property there without too much thought.

Most people don't get DDOSed, and for many of the ones that do, they can just wait it out until the attacker gets tired of burning money. It's very costly and risky for the attacker. Obviously they do occur sometimes - so does murder - but Cloudflare is massively exaggerating the risk of drive-by shootings to make you buy their bulletproof vests.
Their TLS proxy is an open invitation to be backdoored on the unencrypted side even if they don't officially coordinate.
I never thought about that, but yes I would be weary of that as well.