[ajdude]

> Nobody asked for shorts in their feed

This has been a big issue for me. I currently use RSS exclusively to view the YouTube channels that I'm subscribed to -- currently about 75 channels (and 27 nebula channels) -- and over half of my YouTube feeds are filled with several shorts (sometimes multiple ones by the same creator per day).

Looking for hashtags in the title and marking those videos as read is essentially muscle memory at this point.

[dflock]

I see people are doing scripts or other things to remove shorts from their feeds, but there is a simpler solution. Take your RSS URL of a channel, e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCxSGC9B...

Replace the `channel_id` with `playlist_id` and replace `UC` with `UULF`. This prefix will only list normal videos:

https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?playlist_id=UULFxSG...

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From this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48032508

[ajdude]

I'll give this a try!

[unbolted3032]

I've had success marking any URL with /shorts/ in it as read. I use FreshRSS and its URL matching is pretty reliable.

[arjie]

I went to see a video I'd uploaded to Youtube a while ago and it's now a short. I have no idea how it became a youtube short. Either I grandpa'd it or they upgrade all vertical form video to shorts.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qc5PKbJ3tq4

Entirely possible it's the former.

[max-m]

They have been “upgrading” old videos to shorts for more than a year. As far as I know it once started with videos with a runtime of at most 30 seconds. At some point that was increased to 3 minutes. I think they do this to square and portrait videos, maybe the check is as simple as “height >= width and duration <= 3 minutes”?

[sheept]

Out of curiosity, are you filtering out shorts because of YouTube's terrible Shorts UI, or solely because of shorts' content quality?

[theshrike79]

Most channels post just clips of full videos on Shorts, it's not original content.

I've already seen the full video, I don't want to see clips of it again.

Also 90% of my RSS reading is done on a desktop/laptop and it feels "wrong" to watch 30 second vertical shorts on a 32" display :D

[jerf]

For myself, I've curated my recommendation algorithm down to the point that I don't mind the shorts I get recommended, they're generally from content creators I like anyhow, or content creators that use shorts as their primary medium in ways I'm generally OK with, but the UI is trash. For some reason, I can cast normal videos to my Roku, but if I try to cast a short, it cancels casting, quite explicitly with a popup saying "hey this is going to cancel casting, are you sure?". But the Roku YouTube app is perfectly capable of navigating to a short in the UI and playing it.

And no matter how much I curate the algorithm, the thing that it wants to play next in the Shorts UI is effectively random to me. Not once have I ever seen one that is even a decent recommendation. Maybe I'm hitting some weird edge case because I'm having the opposite problem some people report; Shorts aren't horrifically addictive and I can't stop scrolling, I can't start. The recommendations in my feed are OK but the "next short" is uniformly terrible for me.

That's why I try to prune them down a bit.

I keep up the fight because as a recent article noticed, YouTube is still a unique video service with an astonishing amount of high-quality content from small creators, fascinating math videos, how-to videos, etc. I'm more-or-less winning the fight with the algorithm at the moment and it still often turns up interesting things. But it is a constant fight to keep it from becoming a lowest-common-denominator feed. Goodness help you if someone links you a YouTube video of a cat being stupid or anything political, get that watch out of your History before you forget.

[BagelsOverBread]

As someone who's been working on an RSS reader for primarily YouTube content (https://serial.tube), it's 99% content quality and content duplication. I did hear of one specific person who does actually watch them, but that was specifically for artists who only post their progress updates over shorts.

The solution I came up with was being able to sort/filter on all content/just videos/just shorts on a per view (folder) basis, so you can opt into them but they are omitted by default. Curious what other people's approaches are

[abelitoo]

Not OP, but because IMO shorts are mentally harmful. They're the mental equivalent of transfats-heavy foods.

[ajdude]

I try to stay far away from shorts in general- YouTube plays them at maximum volume on my desktop and they suck attention , I feel like they're actively harmful.

Though for content that i follow, Almost every one of these shorts end up just being a snippet of a video they already posted, usually being used as a glorified ad for that existing video. It's just a waste of time.

[Narishma]

Why not both?