[frozenseven]

>You are incurring debt and forcing it upon others.

You seem to have no problem whatsoever with using electricity yourself. So when do you get to tell me (or anyone else) how to live? And when does it stop? Btw, this is all bizarrely dramatic since we were talking about small local models anyway.

>future generations

Yeah, and some will also say (using the same arguments) that having children is harmful to the planet and we need "measures" to limit that too.

[dml2135]

I’m not telling you to do one thing or another. I’m taking issue with your argument that because you pay an electric bill, it follows that you can do whatever you want.

That does not follow logically for me. As humans we disagree about many things, but we generally agree that things that we do often affect others, so one way or another, we need to come together and decide which things are agreed to be acceptable and which things are not.

[frozenseven]

And I'm not inclined to entertain this nonsense, not even as a hypothetical. I'm not giving up on my most basic and fundamental rights, doubly so when these draconian restrictions won't apply to the people who want to impose them.

[vrganj]

Why do you get to tell me (or anyone else) how to live? Why do you get to decide that burning my forest is acceptable?

[frozenseven]

Not interested, go away.