[willio58]

> Leaders will own much more, with as many as 15+ direct reports.

As someone who did have 15 direct reports for a while, it’s a joke.

You basically are their manager in name only. Your time is so split you can’t give any one direct reports the attention they deserve. Quarterly and annual reviews are a farce because you genuinely don’t really know how people are doing except the signals you can receive when you’re not in a meeting with one of your 15 reports.

Just goes to show how far up their own asses some CEOs are. Meanwhile real people just want a boss who cares. Hope Brian feels happier with an extra billion dollars or whatever this year!

[daleswanson]

> As someone who did have 15 direct reports for a while, it’s a joke.

> You basically are their manager in name only. Your time is so split you can’t give any one direct reports the attention they deserve. Quarterly and annual reviews are a farce because you genuinely don’t really know how people are doing except the signals you can receive when you’re not in a meeting with one of your 15 reports.

Don't forget "No pure managers". So, it's 15+ direct reports while also being "a strong and active individual contributor".

[lokar]

But now with LLM agents to help you…

[nvader]

I've seen more than one pitch for knowledge products for "AI-enhanced managers", which are basically prompt templates that enable you to slop your way through 1:1s, ceremonies and reviews.

[meindnoch]

Cool! I hope devs can use their own LLMs to attend these meetings for them too.

[spike021]

Not only for those but being able to nitpick jira tickets or github PRs.

[nvader]

Nice work if you can get it.

[illusive4080]

15 span of control is nothing for many managers in large companies. I’ve seen 30-45 before.

[willio58]

At that number I’d argue what you’re doing is not management. It’s basically “you’re the guy who fires people in this group”. For some companies, that’s fine, but those people will essentially never have your ear, and you’ll only have theirs in group settings.

[strix_varius]

Span of control is quite different from direct report.

[snapcaster]

The span of control for the CEO of my company is more or less 1000 people. His number of direct reports is 5