[pstorm]

I’m very surprised this isn’t getting more attention. Am I missing something?

It seems at or above SOTA on the given benchmarks, doesn’t have context rot, is orders of magnitude faster, and uses less compute that current transformer models. I suppose it’s just an announcement and we can’t test it ourselves yet.

[alexsubq]

We are SOTA in some ways and not in others, continuously working to make it better! We need a little more time to scale, as we are working on things like disaggregated prefill, etc., the norms of large-scale model infra.

I am happy to answer any questions!

[supern0va]

This seems super cool if as described, but I'm sure you can understand the skepticism.

Do you anticipate having any kind of public accessible chat interface for testing in the near future?

Also, what, if any, benefits are there for smaller context windows? Is there still a material improvement in cost to serve under say 256k? I'm curious about the broader implications for the space beyond improvements for very large context windows.

[alexsubq]

I do, for sure! Yes, we have a few product rollouts lined up. The differentials for latency are posted in our blog post, so that should provide an idea of where the scaling law differentials kick in.

[dvfjsdhgfv]

> I do, for sure! Yes, we have a few product rollouts lined up.

When, more or less?

[alexsubq]

We will have a few rollouts in the next two months.

[dirtyalt]

I have questions.

Can you back up your claims?

Why did you not release the white paper in parallel with the product?

Feels really fishy.

[lelanthran]

In this new knowledge economy, there is no benefit to publishing your secret sauce.

If I came up with a novel thing I'd monetise it first, because publishing it makes it part of the training that adds value to billion dollar corps with zero credit to me.

In the old knowledge economy I benefited from the credit assigned to me.

So, to me, nothing fishy at all.

[alexsubq]

What do you want in a whitepaper that was not in our blog post? There is time to add more before the whitepaper is released.

[jazzypants]

I'm not GP, but I would want a benchmark that actually tests the entire context window. A benchmark that only tests the first 128K tokens effectively tells us nothing about how well it works at its full capacity.

[alexsubq]

That makes sense! We are working on that.

[jakevoytko]

The proof is in the pudding. At this point, there have been plenty of models that overperformed on benchmarks and underperformed on real work. So my stance is that I'm curious, I'm excited to see where it goes, and I don't believe it until I can try it.

[dvfjsdhgfv]

> Am I missing something?

Yes, this product doesn't exist.

And the last time a company claimed something similar it disappeared after taking money from investors.

[amw-zero]

Yes you're missing something: the snake oil.

[shdh]

no one has access to it yet

no published benchmarks

no paper

no demonstrations of capabilities

[remaximize]

I agree, it's a real architectural breakthrough if true