[Scroll_Swe]

Yes, that is what I mean.

The issue with communism is if it never happened for real you can imagine all sorts of good amazing things from it with 0 pushback. Look atleast at the states calming to be communist. Would you rather live in Soviet or Western Europe? Ask the balts and poles...

btw Sweden is not socialist

[dmos62]

Why is that an issue? Would you like discourse to be less grounded in ideals? Or is it that these particular ideals are a harm disguised as benefit?

[Scroll_Swe]

? Because then you can just make shit up to put it bluntly.

[mghackerlady]

any idea anyones ever had comes down to that. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, and sometimes they need to be refined

[Scroll_Swe]

But we can see what the best systems already are... Where do people want to live?

- western/nordic europe, japan, singapore, usa, canada