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by HumanOstrich 42 days ago
> This also makes it the only open American frontier-level model right now.

I'm not going to keep arguing with you. If you want to keep arguing, go to https://gemini.google.com/. Gemini knows what a frontier model is and it knows that Gemini Nano is fundamentally different from the other Gemini models. For one, it uses the Gemma architecture. And the next version of Gemini Nano is built directly on Gemma 4.

As for your original claim that I quoted, there are other "open American frontier-level models" by your definition. Like Gemma 4.

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I'm surprised how you try to evade the facts and even try to bring in Gemini in a vain attempt to support your argumentation, when a simple google search would have already pointed you at things like this:

https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/developers-practitioner...

or this:

https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text/overall/pareto

The lines in these charts is literally what the frontier is on a technical level. None of what I said has any ambiguous terminology. This is common language in the field. Neither is the fact that google cares a lot about this. I don't see why you still feel the need to argue about any of this.